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Post by voodoo on Nov 29, 2005 22:38:34 GMT
yeah I know, but still I had to do it.
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Post by jezzy on Nov 30, 2005 10:52:05 GMT
Yes Eggfan. Not to be rude but it dosen't take a Doctor Spock to work out that Nintendo are going down in the home console market. The primary proof that I got is that I can't walk into a GAME store without at most seeing one stand for Gamecube games. It's sad to see Ninty like this.
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Post by voodoo on Nov 30, 2005 12:31:29 GMT
move to Japan then.
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Post by Gamecentral_Defence_Force_Matt on Nov 30, 2005 13:32:15 GMT
But there's plenty of dedicated DS and GBA shelf space. Even Nintendo know the Cube's days are numbered and are probably concentrating their efforts on the Revolution now.
A company like Nintendo would really benefit from making their next console multiregion compatible like their handhelds. Indeed it shouldn't even be that difficult as Nintendo games usually contain very little in the way of speech and text so they could contain all languages in one release which is then set to default to the user setting on the machine itself.
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Post by Dr Eggfan on Nov 30, 2005 15:07:24 GMT
Yes Eggfan. Not to be rude but it dosen't take a Doctor Spock to work out that Nintendo are going down in the home console market. The primary proof that I got is that I can't walk into a GAME store without at most seeing one stand for Gamecube games. It's sad to see Ninty like this. First off, it's Mr Spock. Secondly, there's a difference between the console being unpopular and the console no longer being financially fiable to produce. The Gamecube is currently only unpopular and Nintendo are still making lots of money on it. The Dreamcast became fininacially unviable so SEGA pulled out of home consoles. Since Nintendo are still making money they're not "going down" they're just waiting for people to realise that what they have is better than their competitors.
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Post by offbeat69 on Nov 30, 2005 15:24:21 GMT
As well as being a pediatrician, psychoanalyist and outspoken opponent of the Vietnam war, Dr Benjamin Spock apparently knows much more about Nintendo than the layman. What a guy.
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Post by jezzy on Dec 1, 2005 9:47:45 GMT
Yes Eggfan. Not to be rude but it dosen't take a Doctor Spock to work out that Nintendo are going down in the home console market. The primary proof that I got is that I can't walk into a GAME store without at most seeing one stand for Gamecube games. It's sad to see Ninty like this. First off, it's Mr Spock. Secondly, there's a difference between the console being unpopular and the console no longer being financially fiable to produce. The Gamecube is currently only unpopular and Nintendo are still making lots of money on it. The Dreamcast became fininacially unviable so SEGA pulled out of home consoles. Since Nintendo are still making money they're not "going down" they're just waiting for people to realise that what they have is better than their competitors. First I didn't intent to insult you. You asked for my proof, in a rather heartless way. I don't want Nintendo to go down. I wish it well.
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Post by Claire on Dec 1, 2005 10:46:32 GMT
But they're not. And they won't.
Well, not in my lifetime anyway.
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Post by Jamie85 on Dec 1, 2005 16:47:34 GMT
He deleted himself...Eggfan wins!
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Post by Dr Eggfan on Dec 1, 2005 16:59:52 GMT
Umm, yay?
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Post by voodoo on Dec 1, 2005 17:40:42 GMT
yay indeed, all hail eggfan the winner.
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Post by Ziggy Shadow-Dust™ on Dec 5, 2005 14:05:18 GMT
Horray. Yeah right HE HE HE. I'm still here.
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Post by Jamie85 on Dec 5, 2005 16:58:26 GMT
Yeah, I never thanked you for leaving a whole load of guest posts laying around after you deleted yourself.
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Post by MeesChees on Dec 5, 2005 18:41:55 GMT
We don't GUESTS! We don't want to seem hospitable.
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Post by Saracen on Dec 25, 2005 2:17:36 GMT
i believe that the revolution will be nintendos last console. the home consoles only lasted this long thanks to the gameboy backing them up. now, with the PSP on the scene, sooner or later the DS sales will start to decline too. this time next year i reckon this picture will have started to materialized.
as for this new controller (i haven't seen it but i've heard it involves some arm swinging business) anyone who's played 'house of the dead' on the arcade will know thats a bad idea.
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Post by WeMissGamecentral on Dec 25, 2005 15:07:22 GMT
I think with the Rev controller it will be a case of don't knock it until you've tried it. As for the DS, it is outselling the PSP by an enormous amount in Japan and sales in the west are ahead too, Nintendo's handheld is more popular than you'd think.
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Post by Claire on Dec 25, 2005 20:09:10 GMT
Considering Nintendo are the only company who actually make a profit on their consoles, and for other various reasons already explored in this thread, Nintendo ain't going nowhere.
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Post by Saracen on Dec 25, 2005 21:41:58 GMT
I think with the Rev controller it will be a case of don't knock it until you've tried it. As for the DS, it is outselling the PSP by an enormous amount in Japan and sales in the west are ahead too, Nintendo's handheld is more popular than you'd think. first of all please confirm or deny what ive heard about the controller cos if its true i wont need to try it to know i wont like. seems like more of a novelty than anything else to me. as for your second point i could say the same about Sega's past success but times change. i bet this time next year the PSP will have overtaken DS sales.
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Post by Saracen on Dec 25, 2005 21:51:22 GMT
Considering Nintendo are the only company who actually make a profit on their consoles, and for other various reasons already explored in this thread, Nintendo ain't going nowhere. i'm not denying whether this is true or not but it seems improbable to me. could you provide me with some figures to back this up. i bet 10 years ago some people thought Sega 'ain't going nowhere' too. wishing it doesnt make it so.
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Post by voodoo on Dec 25, 2005 23:34:42 GMT
PS 21.13m Japan 40.78m USA 39.82m Europe 101.73m Total (so far, the PS is still sold in many places) ------- N64 8.54m Japan 27.39m Other 35.93m Total ------- GB 32.47m Japan 86.22m Other 118.69m Total ------- SNES 17.15m Japan 31.87m Other 49.02m Total ------- NES 19.23m Japan 42.55m Other 61.78m Total ------- Genesis / Mega Drive 3.58m Japan 27.17m Other 30.75m Total ------- Saturn 5.74m Japan 3.52m Other 9.26m Total ------- Game Gear 1.78m Japan 6.87m Other 8.65m Total ------- Dreamcast 2.30m Japan 8.30m Other 10.60m Total ------- Unfortunatly I couldn't find europe only figures for snes\megadrive, but as you can see the snes comfortably outsold the md in the "other" teritorys seeing as I have already hijacked this thread I have some info about the Nintendo DS Vs. PSP sales in the uk October 6-13: NDS: 24,492 PSP: 18,723 GBA SP: 8,799 October 14-21: DS: 23,035 GBA SP: 10,034 PSP: 8,000 October 22-29: NDS: 30,000 GBA SP: 15,500 PSP: 12,900 Seems the hype for the PSP has faded allready, novembers figures are almost the same as octobers. Oct 30 - Nov 5: NDS: 35,000 GBA: 25,000 PSP: 16,000 Nov 6 - 13: DS: 40,000 GBA: 32,000 PSP: 12,000
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Post by WeMissGamecentral on Dec 26, 2005 8:14:56 GMT
I'm glad Voodoo found those figures as i did'nt have time to look for them.
Also, Japanese DS sales are way ahead of the PSP and one of the reasons for it is Nintendogs which has sold over 1 million copies in Europe alone.
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Post by Claire on Dec 26, 2005 14:43:23 GMT
Considering Nintendo are the only company who actually make a profit on their consoles, and for other various reasons already explored in this thread, Nintendo ain't going nowhere. i'm not denying whether this is true or not but it seems improbable to me. could you provide me with some figures to back this up. i bet 10 years ago some people thought Sega 'ain't going nowhere' too. wishing it doesnt make it so. Maybe if you'd actually read through this thread before posting you'd have seen they were already there for your viewing pleasure, saving Voodoo the trouble of digging them up again.
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Post by WeMissGamecentral on Dec 26, 2005 16:23:00 GMT
aah, the old 'not reading whole topic' problem again, i've been guilty of that before.
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Post by Saracen on Dec 26, 2005 23:25:06 GMT
i'm not denying whether this is true or not but it seems improbable to me. could you provide me with some figures to back this up. i bet 10 years ago some people thought Sega 'ain't going nowhere' too. wishing it doesnt make it so. Maybe if you'd actually read through this thread before posting you'd have seen they were already there for your viewing pleasure, saving Voodoo the trouble of digging them up again. maybe YOU should read the threads before you try advising others. i HAVE already seen the information you are refering to but it tells me nothing. i was refering to Gamecube sales compared to PS2 sales. this statement that nintendo is the only game company that makes a profit. that info is just showing Nintendo's past glory. i don't live in the past, show me recent sales figures (and before you return to the DS sales i already accept that they are better but only cos the PSP is still new).
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Post by Saracen on Dec 26, 2005 23:42:07 GMT
PS 21.13m Japan 40.78m USA 39.82m Europe 101.73m Total (so far, the PS is still sold in many places) ------- N64 8.54m Japan 27.39m Other 35.93m Total ------- GB 32.47m Japan 86.22m Other 118.69m Total ------- SNES 17.15m Japan 31.87m Other 49.02m Total ------- NES 19.23m Japan 42.55m Other 61.78m Total ------- Genesis / Mega Drive 3.58m Japan 27.17m Other 30.75m Total ------- Saturn 5.74m Japan 3.52m Other 9.26m Total ------- Game Gear 1.78m Japan 6.87m Other 8.65m Total ------- Dreamcast 2.30m Japan 8.30m Other 10.60m Total ------- Unfortunatly I couldn't find europe only figures for snes\megadrive, but as you can see the snes comfortably outsold the md in the "other" teritorys seeing as I have already hijacked this thread I have some info about the Nintendo DS Vs. PSP sales in the uk October 6-13: NDS: 24,492 PSP: 18,723 GBA SP: 8,799 October 14-21: DS: 23,035 GBA SP: 10,034 PSP: 8,000 October 22-29: NDS: 30,000 GBA SP: 15,500 PSP: 12,900 Seems the hype for the PSP has faded allready, novembers figures are almost the same as octobers. Oct 30 - Nov 5: NDS: 35,000 GBA: 25,000 PSP: 16,000 Nov 6 - 13: DS: 40,000 GBA: 32,000 PSP: 12,000 a message to Claire and voodoo: The first table is evidence FOR my argument not against it. ;D in that same post Golden Dragoon wrote 'Nintendo have never had the "throne" in Europe at least'. The second table is irrelevant because in my very first post in this thread i already accepted that fact. Nintendo are the only company who actually make a profit on their consoles please provide evidence for this statement (thats what i was requesting in the first place).
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